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Warning: This blog is based on actual transcripts from a live Affiliate Marketing 3.0 meeting where leaders encouraged deception, misrepresented partnerships, and discussed techniques that may help members evade financial regulation.

The Cult Behind the Scam

In a nearly two-hour live session designed to appear like a standard crypto Q&A, a network of crypto scammers including Shavez Ahmed Siddiqui laid out their vision for the future of BTCC, Protocol Yield, LiquidPay, and a variety of other front companies. But what was pitched as a “visionary” Web3 movement quickly unraveled into a deeply concerning script of fraud, manipulation, and possible criminal conduct.

1. Promises Without Proof

The meeting was riddled with exaggerated promises:

  • BTCC would solve all of Bitcoin’s problems.
  • Protocol Yield would allow users to “sit back and watch your wealth grow.”
  • LiquidPay would revolutionize banking with “DeoBanking” across Nigeria, South Africa, and the U.S.

Not once was evidence shown that any of these platforms are operational, regulated, or backed by real partners. This is classic scammer hype culture—lure victims in with hope and fantasy.

2. Fake Partnerships and Recycled Lies

They claimed:

  • Visa is a partner. (False. Visa has publicly denied any relationship with Shavez Anwar, 9Pay, or LquidPay.)
  • Stripe is a new payment partner. (Unverified and highly suspect.)

Every claim of a financial partner is a strategic lie used to mislead and confuse.

3. Legal Evasion Tactics

Multiple panelists described the benefits of avoiding KYC (Know Your Customer) processes by keeping crypto “decentralized,” implying it was a workaround to avoid taxes or government oversight. One member openly advised:

“If you want to stay anonymous and avoid government interference, keep it decentralized and out of sight.”

Another said:

“Don’t worry, our accounts are international and anonymous.”

This is clear facilitation of financial misconduct. Encouraging people to bypass regulation is not just unethical—it may be illegal.

4. Indoctrination Through Language

This wasn’t just a webinar—it was indoctrination. Repeated buzzwords like “community,” “family,” and “synergy” masked the darker objective: recruit more people into a system that preys on naivety.

The constant affirmation of Shavez Anwar as a “tech genius” was a deliberate distraction from his real track record:

  • Founder of 9Pay, now rebranded as LquidPay after Visa denial.
  • Recently featured in a Forbes India puff piece with no author or editorial balance.
  • Promotes apps that require users to connect their crypto wallets, despite warnings and flagging from MetaMask for phishing.

5. Emotional Manipulation & Delusion

One member gave a bizarre motivational speech comparing paying taxes to “sending love to the tax department with flowers and chocolate.” Others described the scam’s failures as a “test of mindset,” blaming members for not understanding or promoting hard enough.

This is textbook MLM psychology—shift the blame to the victim, glorify suffering as progress, and always point to future, vague “updates” as the solution.

6. False Scarcity and Urgency

With phrases like:

  • “Deadline is getting close. Make your decision now.”
  • “You must harvest and mine now—don’t miss out.”

They used urgency and fear of missing out (FOMO) to pressure attendees into buying fake tokens, paying for mining rigs, and investing more into a collapsing ecosystem.

7. Fake Products, Delayed Roadmaps

Still no working P2P platform. Still no real crypto card use. They just keep dangling carrots:

  • Dodo 2.0
  • Capital 3.0
  • Protocol Yield
  • BTC20

Each one just another empty promise masking the pyramid underneath.

Conclusion: A Coordinated Fraud

The Affiliate Marketing 3.0 video was not just a meeting—it was an exposé on how modern Ponzi frauds operate in the crypto space.

From deceitful leadership to coached misdirection, Shavez Ahmed Siddiqui and his team continue to target mum-and-dad investors, selling them a utopia built on phantom products, false promises, and recycled lies.

Want the full truth? Visit LquidPay.com for all the receipts, analysis, and real-time updates on this ongoing scam.

Proceed with extreme caution. Protect your wallet, protect your identity, and protect others by sharing this post.

Time Stamps / Chapters

00:10 – in a world full of digital disruption one name stood apart not as a trader but as a visionary builder chavez Ahmed Sadiki didn’t follow the hype he built the future bitcoin gave us decentralization but left us with inefficiencies
00:29 – high energy costs slow settlements and limited functionality it sparked a movement but it wasn’t enough chavez saw not just the flaws but the potential he envisioned something bigger a system as secure as Bitcoin but smarter faster and
00:48 – sustainable that idea became BTCC btcc isn’t a fork it’s a future ready reinvention a token built on the BTC20 smart chain blending Bitcoin’s ethos with full DeFi utility and green minting power with BTCC users don’t mine they harvest using Xeon GT miners and eco-friendly Buel anyone can mine BTCC
01:14 – directly own a minor swap USDT to Buel harvest BTCC simple secure decentralized but for Chavez it’s never been just about tech it’s about people btcc and Bitcoin Code.technology are built to to simplify crypto for everyone and to return power to the
01:36 – individual bitcoin changed money chavez is changing what money can do from launching protocol yield to building decentralized exchanges from liquid pay dotCC Chavez Ahmed Siddiki is shaping the infrastructure of tomorrow’s crypto economy btcc isn’t just the next chapter
02:05 – after Bitcoin it’s the chapter Chavez was always meant to write [Music] welcome to Protocol Yield the AI powered platform designed to make smart investments effortless tired of analyzing market data and making complex trading decisions protocol Yield
02:36 – simplifies it all with AIdriven strategies tailored to your goals with protocol yield you can choose your strategy whether it’s balanced growth low-risk security or highreward opportunities our AI executes it flawlessly our AI works around the clock analyzing
02:56 – the markets and making smart decisions so your investments can grow while you focus on life sit back and watch your wealth grow with Protocol Yield profits are just a tap away when you’re ready accessing your profits is fast and easy just one tap and it’s in your hands
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05:52 – to good afternoon day and evening wherever you are in the world wish you that you are having the best day of your life because you are here we know that it’s a pretty good day so thank you for joining us my name is Grace and I personally welcome you to affiliate
06:14 – marketing 3.0 O and today is the day that you get your questions answered and so I hope you have your notebook and your pen and that notebook is full of questions and as well as you can take some notes and um jot down some ideas and be able to provide us some feedback but let’s make sure that
06:44 – we’re learning with our entire team because that is very important so if your team is not here or you’re not seeing your circle of um leaders please give them a call right now especially the ones that have questions your teammates that have questions of their
07:02 – own bring them on board so they can directly ask their questions and hear the answers so if you’re ready we’re ready the question is are you ready for the fantastic information that you are about to observe and absorb let me introduce you to our panel i do believe that David of Financial Freedom
07:30 – is here david are you on board with us let’s get you up here as a panel member or did you just come to listen let us go ahead and co-host David and see if he will join us but here we have we have Shea Joe no stranger to uh this community he is the one that pres that
07:54 – has a plethora of an entire library of videos that are so beneficial to you that help you go from A to Z and continue on forward in this organization in this community he really details things in his videos so make sure that
08:14 – you make that part of your library i think that playlist will be um in the um in the chat so check the chat joe is going to kind of give us a review of what happened yesterday fantastic update joe can you give us the cliff notes of
08:36 – what happened with the updates and then we’ll get the rest of the panel going thank you Joe you’re muted my friend thank you that mute button always gets me thank you very much Grayson good evening everybody uh so yeah just a quick
08:55 – overview regarding the P2P platform that’s in audit uh and is going to take approximately six more weeks and that will be going live uh I know everybody’s eager to get the P2P platform but obviously it needs to be uh audited and
09:13 – it needs to be uh fully functional there’s no point launching it if it’s not fully functional and also it’s going to be much bigger than we expected it’s going to essentially be a fully functional uh exchange in to to a large
09:28 – degree so obviously that’s going to take a bit of time so that should be live in the within the next sort of six weeks um liquid pay uh I don’t have a date for that but it’s not going to be long now i don’t believe on the next update the NFC technology will be going live
09:47 – and it’s very it’s imminent that uh liquid pay will be going live in the US um South Africa and and Nigeria and a few other places as well now that we are partnered with Stripe so that’s heading in the right direction capital 3.0 We
10:04 – still don’t have uh a clo any closure on at the moment but there’s big things happening in the background um with regards to Capital 3.0 so please just be patient it hasn’t gone anywhere we’re just looking at how we can make it better and more exciting for everybody so that will we’ll have some more
10:24 – information on that very soon um what else was there dodo the BT Oh yeah Dodo 2.0 uh Chavez gave us a quick look on the Dodo platform uh yesterday and that looks completely different it it looks like a a complete uh trading platform
10:43 – now as if you’d gone on to Binance and had a look so we had a quick preview of that so that is imminently uh going to be going live as well on Dodo 2.0 um the BTC20 blockchain still under maintenance but lots of things happening on the BTC20 blockchain as well as we
11:03 – head into the second part of 2025 uh I think although I don’t have specific details I think there’s going to be lots of exciting things coming for the BTC20 blockchain now um I think that
11:17 – covers everything i don’t think I’ve missed anything there no I think that you have that so well covered and let me go ahead and introduce uh Krypto uh Carl Crypto Dundee as our panelist and also I believe David you are going to go ahead and join us and let us get you um get you up here
11:48 – if we pin you okay i didn’t do that right okay fantastic well the one thing that we know about um Carl Crypto Dundee is he is the tech brain okay you know we’ll call him a lot of people and this is a compliment in the tech world he’s an egghehead okay
12:28 – and he is absolutely brilliant and he’s Well okay all righty all righty i was I was wondering about that okay but it’s a compliment in the tech field um so Carl brings with uh brings to this panel uh the technical aspect of it and I’m going
12:48 – to ask him to just briefly take a look and kind of with with the summary that Joe provided can you give us the technical um aspect of that and it’s the robustness uh robustness of the affiliate marketing community um uh the products you’re got to unmute i could but uh
13:22 – I could be spilling tea um that’s okay we’ll take some of that too well um if you listen to what Chavez was saying yesterday on UK Prime Time uh he he dropped some hints that the technical um aspects of this blockchain upgrade uh suggest quite a big movement of our coin all right um so yeah the
14:09 – the timeline of peer-to-peer and that changing and the fact that he said that it’s going to be well I won’t I’m not trying to quote him but based on Binance suggests a lot of potential for what’s going to happen when all of these updates complete i will also add to what Joe just said
14:35 – everybody that’s got Dodo 1.0 you need to be thinking about what you’re going to do with your indexes are you going to withdraw them sell them or what okay um the decision time is getting extremely close and activate it okay the the deadline for migrating is is
15:03 – very very close okay make sure you know what you’re going to do that’s all I wanted to add to the updates um okay as we let you Okay as we let you go ahead and put your uh thoughts together you know I’m going to come back and ask you some of the things that folks should
15:28 – be considering whether to what what to do with their dodo indexes um to to help them to things they need to consider to help them make the decision about what they’re going to do uh sell hold or migrate so be thinking about that as some hints that might help people uh to um make up their minds but
15:54 – while you’re doing that let us get David here david is the consumate as far as a proper mindset with the update as you have seen it the David could you give us the kind of mindset that folks need to be able to understand uh or have in moving into the future with the anticipation of the updates
16:23 – that are coming and what that means to the community you need to put your video on and give me give me two minutes two minutes two minutes okay great carl can you answer my question some suggestions
16:45 – i didn’t think there was an actual question in there but that’s fine grammatically speaking um some suggestions uh some considerations that people may have may take into um and take in to determine what they’re going to do with their dodo sell buy hold
17:03 – migrate well um that’s financial advice but so I won’t give financial advice but I will say it basically boils down to whether you want to switch from a decentralized environment into a centralized environment and do KYC as a for a new product which will all be covered under the same KYC provider
17:34 – um there are a lot of people that that want to stay decentralized so if you want if your money is decentralized you want to keep it decentralized that basically tells you what you want to do with the the money so if you want to leave it decentralized you withdraw
17:53 – from Dodo and put it elsewhere do something else with it move it into Kai or um transfer it to a decentralized wallet and just sit on it for a while thank you Carl thank you much now Sheiba Joe you had mentioned as far as the capital 3.0 owe uh the stuff that’s
18:20 – coming along with uh coming along with that can you talk about you know one of the things that Chavez said yesterday was that is wealth generational you know building wealth generational is going to be a a wealth generating machine actually thank you um I can’t give detail because we’ve not
18:46 – yet received that detail but if you consider what the original goal of capital 3.0 was is for us to have the ability to invest in projects before they go live on exchanges so that we’re getting their the tokens of that that
19:04 – project before anybody else so we’ve got them at the lowest possible value which means in a year from now two years from now three years from now maybe at the next bull run we get we could 50x 100x 20x whatever that might be you know capital 3.0 has always been about the
19:25 – long-term vision but because the market has been down for the last Christ three months now the market has been in a little bit of turmoil Capital 3.0 has pretty much come to a standstill because
19:39 – the companies that we were investing in have have held off doing their token generation events so everything’s kind of on pause which has prompted Chavez to look at what he can do to reinvigorate the principle and the vision of capital 3.0 what that will be i haven’t seen
20:01 – behind the doors of of that of that uh vision just yet i don’t think anybody else here has either but one thing is for sure Chavez doesn’t do things by halves if he’s got this vision of what he wants then he’s going to generate it and he’ll make it happen it takes time
20:19 – sometimes you know this is the tech world it doesn’t happen overnight there’s a lot of stuff to be created in the background but without doubt uh Chavez is doing everything that he can to put this community at the forefront of all of this vision that we are
20:37 – working with right now so I’m very excited to see what his plan’s going to be for Capital 3.0 thank you Joe that’s that was a perfect answer honestly it’s what I expected and even more so thank you so much for that contribution now um David are you ready
20:57 – or do I take a question from Sabina yes yes I can do okay please go ahead can kind of you know help us to be able to develop the mindset that we need to embrace all the updates and developments that are coming ah the mindset about the the updates uh yeah that’s a good one you know because
21:21 – normally I always do updates and mindset about production and volume um yes uh let me see it like that uh I think the biggest thing what we have is that you see these changes and the changes are working to make the system bigger ready to grow bigger and
21:42 – to build um you know on the foundation so it’s always the the foundation uh from the house before you build the house if it’s not on solid ground then you know you have to put the the the the poles and the the the concrete in the ground and then so it has to be stable
22:02 – um if something doesn’t work you have to change it you cannot be a weak doctor you have to get rid of the um the the problem the issue so my mindset is you know um it will separate the boys from the girl uh the boys from the men and it will separate
22:21 – the girls from the women so it’s u it’s a kind of uh you know um how you develop in it and of course you can you can see it as a door with clothes but you know we have one mentality in this way um if it doesn’t kill you it it you know it makes you stronger and the other way is um you
22:42 – find a solution or you find an excuse you can choose so I can say I was today I was very happy and I think Joe and Carl I think you were also very happy today with the call of course it was yeah well I I’ll refer to that in a moment once you finish yeah
23:06 – and I can tell you guys it was a good call it was not an easy call and it but it was a really good really really good call um we we we we got some things going and I can tell you um if you ask me um I’m in it for 100% um I can I can
23:26 – tell you this is the right thing this is the right deal um there is none other company where you can have what we have here a combination from a tech genius with the best community builders and with the best partnership behind it and that’s symbiosa how you say that synergy together
23:49 – yeah yeah yeah that’s what but let me use synergy i I know that word you know that is um um do we have it here no I don’t have it here but normally if you take two lighters and you put them together you the flame becomes bigger and today we had that
24:07 – spark we had that flame becoming bigger because we align in in in in how we are going to go to the next chapter and I can say if we go to layer one um that will open so many doors more and and I can tell do the people if you do not or mine mine mine mine harvest mine
24:32 – harvest mine harvest because that is the biggest thing what we can do now mine and harvest abs absolutely fantastic um did you guys want to uh Carl did you want to add on to that comment on that and Joe um because I I believe Sabina is still waiting to with
24:51 – her hand up if not um I want to folks please go ahead and put your hands up uh your virtual hands so we’ll be able to take questions but go ahead uh Carl and Shea anything to add right now yeah I I want to add um based on the meeting we had like we’ve had two
25:11 – meetings with Chavez in a row which is probably against medical advice so we should have a word with him about that um but there was there was some com he he was very focused on getting our feedback
25:32 – about what the community is saying all right we we know we can give the feedback but he was focused on it last night my time and that was a little different that’s why it was why David said it was a good meeting he was really wanting to know
25:50 – what we are have to say unfiltered by the way okay so he was very raw um and there was some of the people were make u some of the leaders were making comments that make this mindset um explanation that I want to give we know this is a tech company and it is beholden on everybody to accept
26:29 – that it is tech new technology offers often right so I want to challenge everybody to accept that they’re going to learn stuff right if you just want a simple simple product to Well this is not the business for you um I’ve said many times that I’m now 67 but I want this to stay 47
27:02 – and oh sorry this to stay 37 and this to say 47 all right so I go to the gym and I practice technology as well so I keep hopping on learn the basics and build on it and learn more than just the basics if you’re not willing to learn
27:29 – you’re you’re going to struggle with all the new technology that’s coming your way that’s the mindset that I want to promote thanks Grace hey so that is a 27 or 37 year old mind right uh with a 47 year old body okay and going in there um he’s Benjamin he’s actually like that Benjamin guy uh that
27:56 – was born as as a baby and then grew um but that is great that’s fantastic mindset um because we know that learning is earning joe did you have something to add uh just something very short really if on hanging on what Carl said there i’m
28:17 – testament to that because remember I’ve only been in the crypto space since 2020 um and so even even that’s five years in the term in the terms of crypto the knowledge that I’ve gained is real is very very small but you know having
28:34 – joined this company and worked with Carl and talked to other leaders and listened to Chavez here I am sitting on a panel tonight as an expert that’s you know that’s wild um so you know it’s not beyond anybody to learn and obviously you know I’m an I’m considered an expert within this
28:56 – situation but I’m by stretch not even close to an expert i just know a lot about this particular system but nowhere near what David knows nowhere near what Carl knows but yet here I am so don’t be scared to learn new stuff you know don’t
29:14 – be scared to learn new stuff it will only make you stronger more confident and more powerful in this affiliate marketing world thank you very wise words uh Sabina you have a question and you have been so patient go ahead and um show us a video
29:33 – show us your wonderful face and let me go ahead and unmute you please unmute can you see me yes yes I see you and I hear you wonderfully ever so hot but I’m happy to see you all really fills my heart since more than one year seeing
29:52 – your good faces and to come back to you Sha Joe if you would not have been there I would not be sitting here and listen to you this was grammatically not correct i know can’t do it better so thank you very much so my question was as I had a
30:10 – I had a vision of I was living in England and I was living in the countryside in Devonshire so all is flocks all is green and all the countryside you can open a gate pass with your your dogs pass with your horse on horseback but you have to close the
30:30 – gate in case there is cattle or sheep on that field so if you don’t do that you are not behaving correctly on the countryside there so I feel like if somebody we have lo we have opened up the gate we have loosened all people now we are free to have our money
30:53 – on our custodial wallet and we have a DeFi and all of this and nobody’s closed the door because we are all happy but now I want to translate Rasheed’s summary of yesterday’s into the German language and it says now it is all centralized i can’t get it together okay we are backed up by all the good
31:20 – financial premiums finance so but what is in the end will everybody see what I’m earning i know it’s a financial advice and they might not be saying anything no what do you mean will everybody see what you’re learning how will everybody be able to see what you’re learning um it’s by
31:47 – through your actions correct but I don’t know is that she’s referring to governmental involvement oh I see okay go ahead Joe yes so that’s a difficult one to answer firstly again not financial advice um but it will depend certainly if you’re
32:12 – KYCing on Binance or any other exchange in the UK at least and probably everywhere else all of the centralized exchanges and wallets that are in the UK if not already are very soon going to have to report back to uh to the
32:30 – government of people’s holdings so there will always be a level of control within the centralized sector there’s there’s no way to really avoid that um but with liquid pay liquid pay is something different because we’re working with although do the DO banking side is is all working through a
32:55 – centralized system it’s set up in a different way it’s I don’t really understand it and Carl can probably explain it better but the banking system that we’re using isn’t a in my case a UK based system or in your case it’s not a Europebased system so we
33:13 – have a degree of privacy in there a pretty high degree of privacy but to what extent I don’t know i don’t know i don’t I can’t really answer better than that but let Carl have a crack he may be able to give a better answer carl okay um the KYC really has no bearing on your
33:41 – privacy it’s just proof of who you are right but all centralized governments are controlling centralized exchanges to the extent that they now have annualized uh verification that it’s still you and annualized reporting so as Joe said they are they are forced to report information
34:14 – so there’s no getting around that that not everyone will see but the government will if that’s what your fear is then you have to take appropriate action david anything to add to that yeah as far as I know they can see they cannot
34:34 – see your wallet they can see your spendings but not your wallet that is how far I can say uh see it um but in and that’s what Carl says and what with which extent is that you know if to be very simple Sabina um if people know your wallet address from Tron or whatever wallet address they can see
34:56 – everything but how do they know your wallet address mhm you understand so don’t worry about that they can see everything um because they can already see everything because every every transaction is on the blockchain so if you don’t want to show it then you
35:16 – have to put it on a ledger or how do you do that uh Carl no don’t worry don’t worry don’t go further on i’ve got your point well I think that’s the whole accountability measure of a blockchain it can be it’s very accountable okay hey Sabina do you have any other questions or has that
35:40 – take care of you thank you so much robert you have your video on you don’t have your hand raised but uh with your video on are you intending to ask a question or you just want to go ahead and share okay all righty i don’t see Alexandra alexandras did you wish to ask a question
36:09 – okay I don’t see your hand raised up debbie did you wish to ask a question all right folks you have all these brilliant minds here as far as uh being able to discuss and address any concerns that you have any ideas that you have because
36:34 – we can talk about ideas um you know you provide these guys these are the leaders as well they’re all ranked leaders and they are able to share uh their ideas uh do we have Gypsy Jamo gypsy Jamo please go ahead and put your video on
37:06 – okay you probably need to walk into a light we’ll need to have your video on i have please and to be able to see your view on now can you see him briefly i saw his face yes yeah sorry my family is sleeping behind me so I need to be in a bit of a shadow
37:29 – already all right please ask a question yeah what’s the What’s the story with Ethina i haven’t been able to uh connect my wallet there and claim my coin server all righty carl would you want to address that yeah um okay as Joe said earlier um Capital 3 is basically on pause
37:57 – all um all the projects that we were planning to invest in the TGE or token generation events have not occurred uh so at the moment all token releases are paused there is discussions about what we do with Capital 3 the community sentiment that’s come to light is that people
38:26 – believed the returns would be much faster and reality sucks it’s not that it’s it’s a longer term prospect so we’re looking at options for changes a new product um whatever is necessary to revitalize the CFI part of our business um it is part of the discussions we’ve had over the last two nights
39:07 – um I won’t reveal any of those discussions at this point uh but it is very very much the focus of um our interactions with management at the moment so while you’re not getting those tokens the ones that you have got they’re yours you can do what you like with them
39:35 – the assets that are on the uh your wallet on your dashboard they’re yours and what you’ll get to choose what to do with them um just be patient we’re we’re working on it okay so what are some of the options uh that JP Jamo may have with the uh tokens or the assets that he has in hand
40:04 – right now um well the Athena token can be swapped to USDC there is a swap pool so you can um swap it to USDC uh it’s on the base network you can move it to a centralized platform crosschain it and send it into Pi and start it working for you in Pi um
40:35 – you could crosschain it and uh polygon it into your liquid pay card and spend it okay all right um am I I don’t know if I’m saying your name correctly but please feel free to correct me if I mess up your name i like everything is about
40:58 – your name so please make sure that I pronounce it correctly i hope that answers your question and so we’re going to if you have no other questions move on to Robert did you have a question yes no thumbs up thumbs down maybe hand up okay all righty debbie do you do
41:23 – you have a question okay and then there’s Peter Nz peter NZ did you have a question okay well listen folks um this is an opportunity again for you to um ask questions and get those questions answered and so Debbie you have your hand up now please go ahead and put on
41:50 – your video all right and ask your question please i have unmuted you hi good afternoon everyone yeah CJ asked me great call my name Grace it’s just um I think um Carl and um Joe um said it it was yeah the use of the liquid pay card you know um the government will know I mean about your
42:18 – crypto thing when you spend but they won’t be able to see your your card and all of that but the moment you start spending and using it that’s way they will um have information about you and crypto they won’t they won’t be able to necessarily go back to you because
42:39 – remember the transactions as David said the transactions are on the blockchain and everything on the blockchain is anonymous oh even though you did the KYC yeah the blockchain doesn’t have KYC
42:51 – you’re only K with the in the case of liquid pay it’s no different to look when you do KYC on Binance for example all they’re doing is confirming that you are a real person and that you are who you say you are now that information
43:06 – isn’t necessarily going anywhere other than being stored on their database okay okay so they can but if the government and I can’t speak for all governments you know if the UK government for example um asks Binance to send details of a
43:25 – specific account then they have to do that right yeah the implications of that through liquid pay is somewhat different because the setup is very different but I don’t know you know exactly that that what would happen with that in the background because as I said the bank
43:45 – account is an international bank account it’s not in my case it won’t be a UK bank account and it won’t be a Australian bank account and it won’t be a German bank account you know it’s an international bank account set up somewhere else which is a essenti a private bank account for you so you’ve
44:04 – got control over your fiat currency where you haven’t got anybody telling you where asking you where you sending your money where what you doing blocking you when you’re trying to buy crypto right so it’s a it’s a completely different setup but whether you’ve got complete anonymity
44:21 – that I can’t answer and again bearing in mind the the we’re on a public forum you know this isn’t just reiterating none of us are able to give financial advice right so yeah okay all right thank you thank you Debbie for exploring that some more with the regard to the P2P
44:43 – um Joe Grace let me let me refer I’m 34 years in this industry Um the most important question what people always ask is how’s it with you know uh visibility u actually they what they ask is um I’m concerned to pay tax and you can never avoid so I give you this mindset be proud to pay 1 million in tax
45:17 – be proud to pay 10 million in tax Because if that is the problem why you are not earning 100 million or 200 million you know when you make a lot of money you get financial advisors you get everything you need to pay as much as possible but don’t let that become an
45:38 – obstacle don’t let that come in your brain that you are having that you are afraid and to be honest um in in the Netherlands if you have a up so go OB then you pay 50 till 52% so the half of the money what you earn in a in in you have to earn more than you know a certain amount then you are
46:05 – in the highest category if you have a business then you pay like 25% 37% it’s depending but if you have a corporate then you you have less but if you are in network marketing then it has a lot of benefits so it’s it’s actually
46:21 – very beneficial to have a passive income without labor you know passive so from my front line everything direct what I do as active I have to pay the corporate tax but for everything what’s passive but for everybody is different and I
46:39 – tell once again because I I’m so long in this industry and the most important thing what people always ask is is it visible do I have to do this do I have to do that and I said listen with the amount of leverage what you’re going to make you will make a reps
46:57 – you know thing around it you put flowers around it you put some nice perfume around it you give the chocolates and you send the money with love to your tax department you understand david thank you so much i have been in a tax professional for over 30 years and one of my bosses at the time actually
47:22 – came to me with a really interesting tax problem he said “You know Grace I have got $10,000 in capital gains this year.” In one year $10,000 he had in capital gains he goes “Now how am I going to is there anything that I can do to do something with that
47:42 – to be I basically kind of looked at him and I said “Take your little personal problems elsewhere because if you take 1% multiply it by $10,000 you can imagine how much money he had in order to garner $10,000 in capital gains.” So it was like a nice problem to have
48:09 – thank you very much it was a nice problem to have with money enough generated passive income and that without without crypto without and just in stocks and that that he was able to get $10,000 just in capital gains that might be subject to 20% taxes taxation so I see that Tulie Tuli uh
48:39 – uh Tulie let me go ahead and unmute you and have you ask your question please go ahead and unmute Ken hi hi good evening um I just want to find out about um liquid pay the card in South Africa is it is it ready for us to use it to
49:07 – KYC joey you had talked about that could you address that because maybe Tulie is just coming in yeah we haven’t got a set date on that yet but hopefully it won’t be too much longer maybe another couple of weeks with any luck okay okay thanks
49:25 – still in the works us is waiting as well Tulie still waiting so it’s not too bad okay any other questions i will add something uh Grace go right ahead please the infrastructure has been inserted uh the testing has been completed uh
49:49 – I don’t know what’s holding it up maybe there’s uh legal processes that need to complete now but essentially all the work is done yes fantastic carl um while we’re with you that near field communications could you um elaborate on that joe had mentioned it and NFC
50:17 – um near field communications what is is that and what does it do for us or how does it help us or uh the um any one of the products that it impacts okay um that’s also implemented but it’s not activated that’s different um the activation will be Chavez said yesterday it will be
50:42 – activated from Monday presumably Monday his time not my time um it’s the it’s the communication of your device to another device bit like Bluetooth if you like okay and most people have it on their phones as a service to talk to an FPOS machine it’s it needs to be well my
51:10 – understanding only uh and I’ll put it in terms that is more general and um common for people it needs to be turned on the other way so that an ATM can talk to us okay so um I’ve only found one machine in my area that appears to have the um capability and I actually tested it on
51:40 – the weekend um and I went and touched the machine the the communication tried to happen but the machine the ATM didn’t know what I was to talk to okay so it needs to now know both ways what the device is and what the card is so it’s trying to extract information out rather than
52:08 – um put it back in again if you want to it’s it’s basically want to try Bluetoothing backwards and forwards excellent thank you so much uh Patrice uh if you would put on your human face please very well let us adjust our monitor so we can see you have a very nice shirt
52:43 – you’re frozen now unmute not you have to unmute there okay can you hear me now yes we can thank you yeah i I just want to understand the impact of the P2P on uh BTC liquidity going forward when when it’s going to be available is it going to help it go up or down or things
53:07 – like that david did you want to tackle that i can say um we we have a lot of community they were really waiting for the peer-to-peer exchange um you know they are thrilled to to hear it and um you know if if movement happens you know is always good because
53:27 – the more movement the more uh vis visibility visibility is there so I think but to to say hey this or this will happen that is prediction and we do not make predictions so for me I can tell you um for a lot of people it will be the thing that they say Okay now I can move my BTCC’s
53:52 – for other people it it’s not necessary so um for me I don’t need a peer-to-peer exchange to believe in the BTCC and the BTCC will only go up if people are buying miners and harvest mine buy miners har mine and harvest then the
54:16 – price will go up and of course if we have deployment on the blockchain so a peer-to-peer is a deployment on the blockchain so it will always increase volume and that volume but to be honest if you buy BTCC on the peer-to-peer it
54:34 – just moves on my wallet example to Joe’s wallet the price will not have an effect on that because I’ll be happy to take your BTCC David i know i know correct yeah yeah but I’m selling it for 4800 you know because the price will go to 4800 i believe you know I believe if you
54:52 – if you just calculate we we we are now going so fast we are almost at 1 million miners active we have 700,000 so much so we always almost have a billion hash i don’t know if you see that but if you see the if you go to the blockchain.technology technology and you
55:11 – see that we are almost at 1 billion hash can you imagine what will happen if people wake up and say hey wait a second I I think I need to buy some miners you know there will people searching on internet where they can buy the miners in the future
55:30 – they will call you they will back you they will say please please you know but that is the thing what I believe so at least if you want to know um the effect of the peer-to-peer on the on the price techn technically um it’s
55:47 – it’s it’s not moving because you move it from one wallet to the other wallet but it is so much easier for the community who needs BTCC to buy the products um to buy um the subscriptions um um to uh to convert you know UCT TLC20 into BTC20 carl
56:09 – anyone want to add to that pretty much um what David said is right um uh I’m not going to speculate on what it’s going to do uh it it’s a service just remember that it’s a service so if you need to use it use it if you don’t need to use it hold your coin and wait to see what happens in the future
56:42 – that’s That’s what I’m going to do i don’t need to sell my BTCC um I I probably will only do a couple of transactions on the peer-to-peer as a self training exercise and then may not look at it for months joe Shiva Joe what is your anticipation of the peer-to-peer because you’d
57:12 – mentioned that a is uh from its original thought process that it more features may be added what is your thought process on the uh use of it just you know that ju just to give people an idea of the practicality um that it might provide
57:36 – uh without seeing it in operation or what it looks like that’s not necessarily a particularly easy question to answer but in my mind I envisionage it as remember it is a peer-to-peer platform so it’s not an exchange like Binance where you you know you’re going to list your BTCC and then you’re going
57:54 – to have people bidding threat in the in quite or the volume of people bidding for it it’s simply a case of you’re going to list your BTCC and then people from within this existing community will
58:09 – I don’t know make an offer of what they are willing to pay for your BTCC or you’ll say you’ll go I’ll I want to sell my five BTCC at $100 each and someone will accept that offer and of course
58:21 – you’ll have this escrow service in the middle to protect both parties so once an agreement has been made the person with the BTCC will send that in and then the person with the USDC or the USDT or the whatever token they’ve agreed to buy it with will be sent in once the escro
58:42 – service has received both parties funds then the exchange will happen so we know it’s going to be a safe place for people to be able to sell but I think my initial uh thoughts are is once it launches there is going to be an influx of people selling because it’s that’s
59:02 – already happening the peer-to-peer selling of BTCC is already in existence there just isn’t a specific company platform for it so we know there’s going to be an influx of people selling so my initial instinct is that the price of BTCC will probably
59:21 – um go down by how much who knows it may go down a little bit may not you know i mean look at what happened when everybody started selling their B their USDT their BTCC to USDT to put into uh Pi to buy Pi packages the price came down so I think there’ll be an initial
59:42 – impact but on the sort of longer term and I don’t mean that long term I’m just sort of talking following weeks I think the price will probably stabilize because ultimately what David’s saying
59:55 – is you know we’re just it’s all within the ecosystem so you’re just sending it from one person to another so it’s movement of money um so the impact may will stabilize but my initial thoughts are that the price of BTCC will will drop when that first impact of uh uh uh
60:15 – occurs which is an opportunity for lots because of course if it drops by let’s say it goes down to $50 yeah you’re right i’m going to buy it i’ll start buying it if the price drop if someone’s selling it at $50 of course I’ll buy it
60:32 – and I don’t think there certainly none of the three of us here will would probably miss on that opportunity because we all understand the future prospect of BTCC and of course it is speculative nobody knows what the future holds for BTCC in 100%
60:51 – but they didn’t with Bitcoin either nobody foresaw what Bitcoin would achieve everybody was mining Bitcoin buying Bitcoin on a hope and a dream and their dream and hopes came true thank you Ken you know the capacity for BTCC to be massive is is clearly there so yeah I don’t I think there’ll be a
61:18 – bit of an impact but I think it’ll probably stabilize in the long term wonderful Carl okay let’s let’s analyze steps all right somebody wants to sell some BTCC all right um if it’s in their wallet it has no effect on the price the price is based on the uh the amount of coin in
61:44 – the swap pool no now so they transfer it from their wallet into the peer-to-peer they stake it if you like into the peer-to-peer saying I want to sell this at as Joe said at this dollar you $100 somebody agrees to that they send an asset now we understand that it will be
62:08 – number of coins that they can use Ethereum um TRC20 uh USDT or Polygon BTC yeah USDC sorry and they put that in and the smart contract swaps it and sends it back out so that person that just bought my one BTCC for $100 what are they going to do with it they’re going to transfer it into their
62:38 – wallet and nothing changes okay but suppose they use it to um pay 40% towards buying miners or a liquid pay card it moves from their wallet to was and was to corporate so it’s still in the ecosystem as Joe said now let’s say it goes to the corporate wallet what’s corporate going to do with
63:11 – it well maybe they’ll stick it into the liquidity pool what am I going to do with the the money that came in um I’ll go spend it but my liquidity is still in the ecosystem if it’s the opposite way round and I buy somebody’s uh BTCC what am I going to do with it well I’ve always said um and a
63:37 – lot of people have heard it and done copied i’ve made maybe on paper yes about $30,000 in the swap pool being a liquidity provider so every time somebody is going to be buying somebody else’s BTCC that they um want to swap or whatever they do I’m making
64:06 – swap fee so please everybody use the peer-to-peer as much as you like if you’ve got it in the swap pool swap it and bring it out and give me some fees thank you very much Carl i believe Emmy uh you have a question and you’re
64:26 – showing your video thank you so let me go ahead and unmute you and ask you to ask a question yes hi um my question is actually for Joe in regards to the um PO um when we actually put down the amount that we need to claim um is that just the um just the deposit minus the withdrawal sure
64:53 – yeah if you go to assets and just add up all of your deposits up until I think it’s 28th of December 2023 and then go to your withdrawal wallet and deduct all of your withdrawals the the um difference between the two will be what you’re what you’re what you’re owed through the um through the P
65:21 – uh because obviously remember the P is just about the 1x so if you’ve already withdrawn your 1x then there won’t be anything to come back to you but yes it’s just a straightforward number some people if they’re here if they happen to
65:35 – be in this room some people actually know exactly how much P in wrapped Bitcoin they are owed because they took screenshots so they know what they’re owed but they just didn’t withdraw it
65:47 – before the wallet was removed mhm if you’ve done that then you can just put in the wrapped Bitcoin number instead of the dollar value um in there for what you’re claiming so either or it’ll be just as good okay great yeah just wanted to um we were doing that but just wanted to
66:06 – confirm that somebody asked me and I’m I told them the same thing what what I thought it was so thank you good to see you again Amy thank you hi David everyone okay thank you so much for all of you who have contributed to this discussion
66:26 – i thank you all very much i know that maybe some of you still have questions may not know how to frame them at this time or you’re saying okay I still got to work out the question don’t worry you have the drop your question form which is in the chat i direct your attention
66:47 – to the chat as I’m talking so that you take a look at all of the information that’s there there’s a live stream to this uh particular Q&A this session so that you can go back and watch it um watch Joe’s wonderful updates um David’s mindset and Carl’s um talking about the technical robustness
67:14 – of this particular industry um and affiliate marketing that we’re in so you want to be able to take a look at that again kind of listen uh again with second for a second time and absorb all that information also in there you will
67:33 – also find the results of the questions the answers you’ll have have the link so you may want to check out that link um and see all the answers to previous questions that have been answered um asked and answered and so that will give
67:53 – you a good library like a frequently asked questions kind of a a library so that you can refer to those uh results questions and answers along the way keep that as part of your tool in your toolbox to continue to enrich your
68:12 – education then one of the things that’s so important that you have heard from these ranked leaders who have met with who meet with Chavez that they have been able to take your feedback and Chavez has been pointedly interested in hearing
68:34 – from the community so the the mechanism for that is the affiliate marketing 3.0 O evaluation form and also of course all the questions that you asked here that is a mechanism to give that kind of feedback please use evaluation form rate and as far as this session is concerned and any of the u um
69:04 – athlete marketing presentations and events we really appreciate your participation because the community is the bond the glue that makes this system work and we’re all here for you okay so thank you all so much for joining anybody have any last questions um before we say adios sani
69:33 – um so Sabina have I missed a lot of uh a lot yet i I know you have multiple languages so did I catch enough thank you carl you have last words i was going to ask for that well it’s someone direct messaged me um on Telegram actually i just I think I
69:56 – better just check Telegram and and Jane has asked is it wise to put our BTCC we are holding into the swap pool or just keep it in our wallet um well either way is both wise for different reasons but when uh just a little technical uh explanation of investing in the swap pool as a liquidity provider
70:22 – a swap pool is a two token environment so you don’t just put BTCC in there some swap pools will automatically do it for you but ours doesn’t so you need to swap half into uh whatever the other token is and there are several swap pools to invest in
70:44 – and you once you pick the two tokens swap half into the other token then you go to the pool section and add select the add liquidity option okay just those little steps you’ve got to be aware of it’s not just bunging in there and and hope it for our swap pool um but some as
71:06 – I said some like uni um unis swap often has the swap pools automatically convert half and put the the results in for you and yeah every time somebody does a swap somebody’s got to earn the swap fee the swap piece joe did you see any questions directed to you
71:33 – check and David could you be checking to see if you have any questions here i don’t have any i’m not popular this week okay David any direct questions to you no the only thing what I would say is um believe in the system believe in the in the
71:58 – products believe in the in the corporate and the most important thing believe in yourself um I speak to big leaders all over the world every day and they all say “Oh what did we do with the Bitcoin what did we do what did we do with Ripple what did we do with Dutch what
72:17 – did we do with Ethereum we had so many and we all spend them and they still are getting in programs where nothing is behind easy money games and you call it how you call it and there’s a funny thing if you if you say to a person listen I have a big gamble it cost you $1,000
72:45 – but it is a big gamble but you don’t have to recruit anybody they say “Oh what is it what is it?” If you say “I have a really good program but you have to bring five people and uh you know you can start with $50.” They say “No no I I don’t want it i don’t want it.” If you
73:02 – if you come with something where they do not need to and this is mindset if you say that they do not need to recruit they call everybody hey you don’t need to recruit it’s a big gamble so the mindset from the most people here I think is is actually a little bit
73:19 – confusing for me so if I say I have a good trustworthy business you’re not inviting but if I say you do not need to invite but it is a big gamble then you say you know so tell me um you know figure it out in that way i I I’m always wondering if you knew that you couldn’t fail what would you do
73:47 – so for me the programs again the products that we have is amazing but this is what Carl said they can be complicated in the beginning but hey that’s why you have us here tomorrow Tashid is going to do a training i challenge you to have your whole team there i challenge you to call everybody
74:13 – to be there on the master training and to make sure that you have your whole team there because I can tell you everybody who is not coming to the trainings will vanish it’s like a religion if people go to the church they go to the church if they don’t go to the church they you know
74:35 – it’s the same with everything so be a part one second thing promote it go there that’s what I want to say thank you Shiva joe did you have anything to add to that before we close i’m not sure I could really say much
74:54 – more than David has said there he said it so beautifully we’re an affiliate marketing company the future of this company is in our hands and for and we finally have a safe place where we know
75:09 – that we it’ll still be here tomorrow and the next day so what more do we need to ask for go forth and multiply as I said last time off the rabbits all righty with that let us go ahead and make like rabbits and hop on to it thank you all so much gentlemen I know
75:40 – your time is precious you’re very valuable and your mind is even more valuable and precious that because your intelligence and outlook and perspectives that you bring to here it is not artificial and I’m not knocking artificial intelligence okay but the the
75:59 – the real intelligence the live intelligence that you have cannot be duplicated replicated in any way so thank you so much especially for the energy and the synergy that you bring to this DS thank you for your time and
76:17 – effort and everybody everybody else who is involved in the production of affiliate marketing 3.0 um events thank you all so much for being here especially these very important participants and people that are here and asked and contributed to
76:38 – this discussion you all have a very good day we’ll see you tomorrow for master class training and on Saturday bring your team to get trained on on boarding you’ll It’s just a fantastic lineup we’ll see you then bye-bye you know.

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